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What is a light bulb?

Admittedly, I've posted about this before. But the situation is so ridiculous, and it's ongoing, so I am once again asking for the help of any mod or anyone else at Amazon who can end the months of absurdity that Seller Support has put us through. The latest case ID is 13634788191.

B0BY3NNK7W is an underwater LED light fixture with a brass glare guard.

B07VMJ6MWX is the same fixture, with no glare guard.

Both detail pages were removed, ostensibly for being "general service light bulbs that are non-compliant with the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy conservation standards."

Anyone can see that those are fixtures, not bulbs. "Integrated LED" in the product name literally means the LED is integrated into the fixture. There is no bulb. There's no socket to screw a bulb into. They don't come with a bulb. It's physically impossible to use these fixtures with a bulb. I appealed to that effect, and B07VMJ6MWX was restored - but not B0BY3NNK7W. Evidently, a brass glare guard transforms something that is not a bulb into a bulb? OK, well, let's stick a pin in that for right now and look at the DOE's definition of a general service light bulb:

"The GSL definitions rule defined a GSL as a lamp that has an ANSI base; is able to operate at a voltage of 12 volts or 24 volts, at or between 100 to 130 volts, at or between 220 to 240 volts, or of 277 volts for integrated lamps (as defined in this section), or is able to operate at any voltage for non-integrated lamps (as defined in this section); has an initial lumen output of greater than or equal to 310 lumens (or 232 lumens for modified spectrum general service incandescent lamps) and less than or equal to 3,300 lumens; is not a light fixture; is not an LED downlight retrofit kit; and is used in general lighting applications. General service lamps include, but are not limited to, general service incandescent lamps, compact fluorescent lamps, general service light-emitting diode lamps, and general service organic light emitting diode lamps."

  • "has an ANSI base" - again, B0BY3NNK7W has no base, or any socket to screw a base into; the LED is integrated into the fixture
  • "is able to operate at ... 227 volts for integrated lamps" - B0BY3NNK7W is a 12V fixture
  • "is not a light fixture" - B0BY3NNK7W is, and I cannot stress this enough, a light fixture

In three separate ways, DOE's definition of a general service light bulb does not apply to B0BY3NNK7W. I have a hard time believing Seller Support doesn't understand this, and that there is no one at Amazon who is empowered to tell them enough is enough.

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What is a light bulb?

Admittedly, I've posted about this before. But the situation is so ridiculous, and it's ongoing, so I am once again asking for the help of any mod or anyone else at Amazon who can end the months of absurdity that Seller Support has put us through. The latest case ID is 13634788191.

B0BY3NNK7W is an underwater LED light fixture with a brass glare guard.

B07VMJ6MWX is the same fixture, with no glare guard.

Both detail pages were removed, ostensibly for being "general service light bulbs that are non-compliant with the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy conservation standards."

Anyone can see that those are fixtures, not bulbs. "Integrated LED" in the product name literally means the LED is integrated into the fixture. There is no bulb. There's no socket to screw a bulb into. They don't come with a bulb. It's physically impossible to use these fixtures with a bulb. I appealed to that effect, and B07VMJ6MWX was restored - but not B0BY3NNK7W. Evidently, a brass glare guard transforms something that is not a bulb into a bulb? OK, well, let's stick a pin in that for right now and look at the DOE's definition of a general service light bulb:

"The GSL definitions rule defined a GSL as a lamp that has an ANSI base; is able to operate at a voltage of 12 volts or 24 volts, at or between 100 to 130 volts, at or between 220 to 240 volts, or of 277 volts for integrated lamps (as defined in this section), or is able to operate at any voltage for non-integrated lamps (as defined in this section); has an initial lumen output of greater than or equal to 310 lumens (or 232 lumens for modified spectrum general service incandescent lamps) and less than or equal to 3,300 lumens; is not a light fixture; is not an LED downlight retrofit kit; and is used in general lighting applications. General service lamps include, but are not limited to, general service incandescent lamps, compact fluorescent lamps, general service light-emitting diode lamps, and general service organic light emitting diode lamps."

  • "has an ANSI base" - again, B0BY3NNK7W has no base, or any socket to screw a base into; the LED is integrated into the fixture
  • "is able to operate at ... 227 volts for integrated lamps" - B0BY3NNK7W is a 12V fixture
  • "is not a light fixture" - B0BY3NNK7W is, and I cannot stress this enough, a light fixture

In three separate ways, DOE's definition of a general service light bulb does not apply to B0BY3NNK7W. I have a hard time believing Seller Support doesn't understand this, and that there is no one at Amazon who is empowered to tell them enough is enough.

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What is a light bulb?

Admittedly, I've posted about this before. But the situation is so ridiculous, and it's ongoing, so I am once again asking for the help of any mod or anyone else at Amazon who can end the months of absurdity that Seller Support has put us through. The latest case ID is 13634788191.

B0BY3NNK7W is an underwater LED light fixture with a brass glare guard.

B07VMJ6MWX is the same fixture, with no glare guard.

Both detail pages were removed, ostensibly for being "general service light bulbs that are non-compliant with the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy conservation standards."

Anyone can see that those are fixtures, not bulbs. "Integrated LED" in the product name literally means the LED is integrated into the fixture. There is no bulb. There's no socket to screw a bulb into. They don't come with a bulb. It's physically impossible to use these fixtures with a bulb. I appealed to that effect, and B07VMJ6MWX was restored - but not B0BY3NNK7W. Evidently, a brass glare guard transforms something that is not a bulb into a bulb? OK, well, let's stick a pin in that for right now and look at the DOE's definition of a general service light bulb:

"The GSL definitions rule defined a GSL as a lamp that has an ANSI base; is able to operate at a voltage of 12 volts or 24 volts, at or between 100 to 130 volts, at or between 220 to 240 volts, or of 277 volts for integrated lamps (as defined in this section), or is able to operate at any voltage for non-integrated lamps (as defined in this section); has an initial lumen output of greater than or equal to 310 lumens (or 232 lumens for modified spectrum general service incandescent lamps) and less than or equal to 3,300 lumens; is not a light fixture; is not an LED downlight retrofit kit; and is used in general lighting applications. General service lamps include, but are not limited to, general service incandescent lamps, compact fluorescent lamps, general service light-emitting diode lamps, and general service organic light emitting diode lamps."

  • "has an ANSI base" - again, B0BY3NNK7W has no base, or any socket to screw a base into; the LED is integrated into the fixture
  • "is able to operate at ... 227 volts for integrated lamps" - B0BY3NNK7W is a 12V fixture
  • "is not a light fixture" - B0BY3NNK7W is, and I cannot stress this enough, a light fixture

In three separate ways, DOE's definition of a general service light bulb does not apply to B0BY3NNK7W. I have a hard time believing Seller Support doesn't understand this, and that there is no one at Amazon who is empowered to tell them enough is enough.

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What is a light bulb?

Admittedly, I've posted about this before. But the situation is so ridiculous, and it's ongoing, so I am once again asking for the help of any mod or anyone else at Amazon who can end the months of absurdity that Seller Support has put us through. The latest case ID is 13634788191.

B0BY3NNK7W is an underwater LED light fixture with a brass glare guard.

B07VMJ6MWX is the same fixture, with no glare guard.

Both detail pages were removed, ostensibly for being "general service light bulbs that are non-compliant with the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy conservation standards."

Anyone can see that those are fixtures, not bulbs. "Integrated LED" in the product name literally means the LED is integrated into the fixture. There is no bulb. There's no socket to screw a bulb into. They don't come with a bulb. It's physically impossible to use these fixtures with a bulb. I appealed to that effect, and B07VMJ6MWX was restored - but not B0BY3NNK7W. Evidently, a brass glare guard transforms something that is not a bulb into a bulb? OK, well, let's stick a pin in that for right now and look at the DOE's definition of a general service light bulb:

"The GSL definitions rule defined a GSL as a lamp that has an ANSI base; is able to operate at a voltage of 12 volts or 24 volts, at or between 100 to 130 volts, at or between 220 to 240 volts, or of 277 volts for integrated lamps (as defined in this section), or is able to operate at any voltage for non-integrated lamps (as defined in this section); has an initial lumen output of greater than or equal to 310 lumens (or 232 lumens for modified spectrum general service incandescent lamps) and less than or equal to 3,300 lumens; is not a light fixture; is not an LED downlight retrofit kit; and is used in general lighting applications. General service lamps include, but are not limited to, general service incandescent lamps, compact fluorescent lamps, general service light-emitting diode lamps, and general service organic light emitting diode lamps."

  • "has an ANSI base" - again, B0BY3NNK7W has no base, or any socket to screw a base into; the LED is integrated into the fixture
  • "is able to operate at ... 227 volts for integrated lamps" - B0BY3NNK7W is a 12V fixture
  • "is not a light fixture" - B0BY3NNK7W is, and I cannot stress this enough, a light fixture

In three separate ways, DOE's definition of a general service light bulb does not apply to B0BY3NNK7W. I have a hard time believing Seller Support doesn't understand this, and that there is no one at Amazon who is empowered to tell them enough is enough.

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What is a light bulb?

by Seller_yvO8mEXSyy2K8

Admittedly, I've posted about this before. But the situation is so ridiculous, and it's ongoing, so I am once again asking for the help of any mod or anyone else at Amazon who can end the months of absurdity that Seller Support has put us through. The latest case ID is 13634788191.

B0BY3NNK7W is an underwater LED light fixture with a brass glare guard.

B07VMJ6MWX is the same fixture, with no glare guard.

Both detail pages were removed, ostensibly for being "general service light bulbs that are non-compliant with the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) energy conservation standards."

Anyone can see that those are fixtures, not bulbs. "Integrated LED" in the product name literally means the LED is integrated into the fixture. There is no bulb. There's no socket to screw a bulb into. They don't come with a bulb. It's physically impossible to use these fixtures with a bulb. I appealed to that effect, and B07VMJ6MWX was restored - but not B0BY3NNK7W. Evidently, a brass glare guard transforms something that is not a bulb into a bulb? OK, well, let's stick a pin in that for right now and look at the DOE's definition of a general service light bulb:

"The GSL definitions rule defined a GSL as a lamp that has an ANSI base; is able to operate at a voltage of 12 volts or 24 volts, at or between 100 to 130 volts, at or between 220 to 240 volts, or of 277 volts for integrated lamps (as defined in this section), or is able to operate at any voltage for non-integrated lamps (as defined in this section); has an initial lumen output of greater than or equal to 310 lumens (or 232 lumens for modified spectrum general service incandescent lamps) and less than or equal to 3,300 lumens; is not a light fixture; is not an LED downlight retrofit kit; and is used in general lighting applications. General service lamps include, but are not limited to, general service incandescent lamps, compact fluorescent lamps, general service light-emitting diode lamps, and general service organic light emitting diode lamps."

  • "has an ANSI base" - again, B0BY3NNK7W has no base, or any socket to screw a base into; the LED is integrated into the fixture
  • "is able to operate at ... 227 volts for integrated lamps" - B0BY3NNK7W is a 12V fixture
  • "is not a light fixture" - B0BY3NNK7W is, and I cannot stress this enough, a light fixture

In three separate ways, DOE's definition of a general service light bulb does not apply to B0BY3NNK7W. I have a hard time believing Seller Support doesn't understand this, and that there is no one at Amazon who is empowered to tell them enough is enough.

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